Cardinal Zen Arrested - Released On Bail

Cardinal Joseph Zen, 90, has been arrested in Hong Kong (May 11) by security police on charges of alleged “collusion with foreign forces,” under the …
Aaron-Jozef
De vervolging van de gelovigen die in God geloven neemt steeds meer toe, maar God de vervolgden beschermen en de aanvallers vernietigen. Het Goede Wint het Altijd van het Kwade. God is het Goede en de Duivel is het Kwade.
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The Chinese prelate has frequently warned that Vatican efforts to reach a diplomatic accord with Beijing have heightened the danger to the freedom of the Church.
Ursula Sankt
In 2020, Zen said: “As a senior citizen I have to speak out my mind and so I think they have more than enough material to accuse me… It will not be a surprise, but I am not doing anything to provoke that.”
Ultraviolet
@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori Pope Francis doesn't run Communist China. Communist China runs Pope Francis. So this isn't all the fault of Pope Francis and "pope" doesn't need sarcastic-quotes, either.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
Only thing Bergoglio deserve is sarcastic remarks. Let me be clear. I think JPII for all his mistakes, and Benedict XVI were still totally legit Popes. Bergoglio (aka Pope Francis) is not for the simple reasons that h has in word, actions, and appointments of people, and persecution of Catholic tradition, TLM, departed so far from Catholic Faith (even that taught by Vatican II Popes...all of …More
Only thing Bergoglio deserve is sarcastic remarks. Let me be clear. I think JPII for all his mistakes, and Benedict XVI were still totally legit Popes. Bergoglio (aka Pope Francis) is not for the simple reasons that h has in word, actions, and appointments of people, and persecution of Catholic tradition, TLM, departed so far from Catholic Faith (even that taught by Vatican II Popes...all of whom have taught at least some error), that he doesn't even qualify as Catholic......least of all for welcoming Pachamamma into St.Peter's and revrencing it and praying before it. Also for his almost complete departure from accepted Catholic teaching on issue of LGBTQ's and Trans. They are nothing other than sodomites and perverts.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
This is all the fault of "pope" Francis and Parolin.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
Ill just bet someone will post complaining and blaming me by name that I DARED to put the word Pope in small case and in quotes, as if to degrade/insult "Our Holy Father, Pope Francis" That's why I did it 🤭
Lisi Sterndorfer
These arrests are a further demonstration of China's aim to stamp out opposition in Hong Kong, and are completely at odds with the freedoms promised to HK.
lancs1
Last time the saintly Cardinal Zen was in Rome Bergoglio refused his request for an audience. Not much chance of using any influence he and Parolin have with their chums in the CCP. 🙏
rhemes1582
I think that is called an unforced error.
De Profundis
Cardinal Zen's message will now ring loudly throughout the world . Especially the catholic world . The CCP just made a big mistake.
Just me
@De Profundis Let us hope Catholics will wake up now.
Marie Madeleine
"Oh God the Father, in the name of Your Beloved Son, I beg you to give strength and the Graces needed To help priests withstand the persecution they endure. Help them to adhere to the truth of the Teachings Of Your Son, Jesus Christ, and to never waive, weaken or submit To untruths about the existence of The Holy Eucharist. Amen"
Marie Madeleine
This prayer comes from the 170 Crusade Prayers of Jesus to Mankind. I did not compose it.
Werte
Cardinal Zen was very instrumental in the conversion of Jimmy Lai to Catholicism. He is the founder of Apple Daily, which was one of the most read news paper in Hong Kong until it was closed down by the government. Jimmy is also now in prison.
Just me
@Werte I watched that man being arrested, twice. He seems strong enough not to give in. We need to pray hard for all of us. More than ever. Especially those that have been arrested in China. I fear they are torturing them badly right now. As they did to the 10 missing Priests. Some who already died. One that no one has heard from in over 2 years now.
De Profundis
“The Holy See has learned with concern the news of Cardinal Zen’s arrest and is following the development of the situation with extreme attention,” Vatican spokesman Matteo Bruni has said in a statement to journalists.
Just me
Watching? What about doing? I fear they will not do a thing for him. I would have tried immediately. Not wait till it is too late. The will try him and persecute him. He is already been found guilty in their eyes. That is how they work.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
Pope francis didn't even have the decency to recieve saintly and heroic Cardinal Zen in audience when the Cardinal recently went to Rome. Moreover, Bergoglio appointed an absolute HERETIC to replace Cardinal Zen in Hong Kong, someone who supports idea of "women priests" and has said so openly.
Ultraviolet
No, Kenjiro. Someone isn't a "HERETIC" or an "absolute HERETIC" just because you say they are. That isn't how the word "heresy" is used in a Catholic sense. Serious question... how many times do I have to correct you before it sinks in?
Sally Dorman
This is massive news, and portends worse persecution to come in Hong Kong and the mainland.
DefendTruth
michael newman
Not very funny
Just me
@Danielle Martinez GOD help us all. it is ready to show itself this year. Watch and wait. I hope that man does not introduce it to us. I also fear trump may do the same thing. And I use to like that man until he kept pushing that poison. What I found odd with him the most. I never saw any pictures or a video of him in the hospital. A man that loves his picture taken doing anything. Also, you …More
@Danielle Martinez GOD help us all. it is ready to show itself this year. Watch and wait. I hope that man does not introduce it to us. I also fear trump may do the same thing. And I use to like that man until he kept pushing that poison. What I found odd with him the most. I never saw any pictures or a video of him in the hospital. A man that loves his picture taken doing anything. Also, you would think he would want to let us know he is there and doing fine. As he and the doctors said. Just never did understand that. From then on, the red flags went up. But, I wait and watch that man good now. I will see if he is what he says he is. A good man or a deceiver. A con man.
Just me
@michael newman No! Not funny at all. but I believe very true. It is said, by the jews, that thing will show itself this year. And I am afraid it will be him to help usher it in. To introduce it to us. And I also think trump will do the same. I hope not. But I just don't trust that man any more. Either of them.
Werte
"Mummy, why does everyone who criticises Pope Francis get arrested?"
Just me
@Danielle Martinez I too liked trump. But I was also weary of him. Something did not seem right about him. But I did like him and voted for him. I don't put 100% or even 90% trust in any man. They all lie, sin and do evil things. Unlike Christ who is 100% pure love and truth.
I was told when ovomit came on the scene. Vote for the lesser of two evils. Do not vote for him. I said to these people. …More
@Danielle Martinez I too liked trump. But I was also weary of him. Something did not seem right about him. But I did like him and voted for him. I don't put 100% or even 90% trust in any man. They all lie, sin and do evil things. Unlike Christ who is 100% pure love and truth.

I was told when ovomit came on the scene. Vote for the lesser of two evils. Do not vote for him. I said to these people. You are asking me to vote for satan or one of it's demons? Isn't evil, still evil? Then I was told, if you don't, your vote will go to him. So I said, if GOD chooses he get in, he will. If GOD chooses for him not to get in. He won't. No matter what we do.

Jesus answered: Thou shouldst not have any power against me, unless it were given thee from above. Therefore, he that hath delivered me to thee, hath the greater sin.

So, I look at it as I should. They all got in for one reason or the other. All from GOD. As a gift or a punishment. And I don't want to be one with any of those sins on me. Greater or smaller.
Ultraviolet
"his fat sausage fingers signed the WARP speed legislation. " @Danielle Martinez
That's ironic coming from a morbidly obese guy pretending he's a woman.
"There is not one Catholic thing Bergoglio has done as "pope", not one."
Since he's crossed himself and said the Rosary your claim is invalid.
"But on this Catholic site you can't defend Catholicism"
You never do. You defend your own delusions …More
"his fat sausage fingers signed the WARP speed legislation. " @Danielle Martinez

That's ironic coming from a morbidly obese guy pretending he's a woman.

"There is not one Catholic thing Bergoglio has done as "pope", not one."

Since he's crossed himself and said the Rosary your claim is invalid.

"But on this Catholic site you can't defend Catholicism"

You never do. You defend your own delusions and try to rail-road them as the established narrative..

"you can't explain why Bergoglio is a runaway communist heretic. "

In your case, you can't "explain" because he isn't a heretic the way The Catholic Church defines the term, something I've pointed out to you for years now, regardless of what sock-puppet account you're running after your last ban.
Ultraviolet
"If you use the word "antipope" you get blocked."
Wrong. Blocking is a user-function, not an administrative one. If you discredit Benedict Buddes and their "antipope" claims, then you blocked.More
"If you use the word "antipope" you get blocked."

Wrong. Blocking is a user-function, not an administrative one. If you discredit Benedict Buddes and their "antipope" claims, then you blocked.
Werte
After all our temptations to despair, we see that we do have heroic witnesses of Christ in our midst
De Profundis
Please, pray for one of the greatest Cardinals