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Francis, A Rigid Modernist, Sees "Rigidity" Everywhere

“I am not afraid of schisms. I pray that they do not happen,” Pope Francis said during a September 10 press conference on the plane from Madagascar to Rome.

Asked whether he fears a schism in the U.S. where he is often criticised, Francis replied that criticisms do not come only from America but from "everywhere."

Then, he attacked, saying that there have been "many schisms in the Church" and that there is always the "schismatic option" which is "not Christian." He admitted that "ideologies enter into doctrine," and then “there is the possibility of a schism.” Contamination with ideologies seems to be a major problem of Francis' own magisterium.

When it comes to criticizing the pope, he continued, “saying what you don’t like, writing an article and asking for a response, this is "loyal" [a word derived from French "loi" which means "law"]. Instead, voicing a criticism "without dialogue," without wanting an answer, is "not loving the Church." Until now, Francis has refused the dialogue with the Dubia Cardinals.

Wanting to "change the pope" makes according to Francis "a schism." It is remarkable that Francis argues on a merely sociological level without referring to the truth.

He defended himself by declaring that he says [only] on social issues the same as John Paul II. “But some say, ‘This pope is a too communist.’”

Then he ranted about a “dry morality” which is allegedly imposed on Catholics [by whom?]. Francis said that this leads to “rigidity” and lamented that "today we have many schools of rigidity" within the Church [which cannot be true, because Francis' Church is full of moral scandals].

But for Francis, taking morality seriously is "semi-schismatic" and "will end badly.” Therefore, Francis went on ranting against those who are "rigid", “When you see Christians, bishops, priests [that are] rigid, behind this there are problems. There is not the holiness of the Gospel.“ Francis himself is a rigid Modernist.

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Tesa
Francis is right, let's give up adjectives. Like "rigid"
aderito
takes one rigid to know another
Eva
“The pastors must lead their flock between grace and sin, because this is evangelical morality.” Pope Francis on a plane
Gesù è con noi
Bishop Athanasius Schneider warned that there is an inverted schism of bishops who are joining Bergoglio and at the same time are separating themselves from Catholic doctrine. He also said: "There are priests and bishops who EVILY contradict the TRUTH OF GOD, and who by their pronouncements and actions are separating themselves from THE TRUTH OF THE CHURCH."
Prayhard
Rigid? What Bergoglio means he and bff Zanchetta see an upcoming shortage of homo V2 priests. What Benedict did to restore the priesthood still hasn't been effaced.
CarolineA03
No TRUE, canonically elected Pope would be unprotected by the Holy Spirit - left to preach/teach the blasphemy that this bounder does. Even the suspected dubious, said to be "immoral" previous Popes never taught an error, and that includes Borgia.
"Catholicism" is not being transformed at all by him or anyone. Truth is not relative, it is dogmatic and unchangeable, not dependant on the whim of any …More
No TRUE, canonically elected Pope would be unprotected by the Holy Spirit - left to preach/teach the blasphemy that this bounder does. Even the suspected dubious, said to be "immoral" previous Popes never taught an error, and that includes Borgia.

"Catholicism" is not being transformed at all by him or anyone. Truth is not relative, it is dogmatic and unchangeable, not dependant on the whim of any old heretic who sees the Papal See as his. Remember Christ's warnings via the Mystics and Saints. Did He not warn us through Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich that a False church would be superimposed over His True Roman Catholic Church, and His original Church would remain unchanged, hidden beneath it, visible to only a few?

ourlady3.tripod.com/emmerick.htm

Canon Lawyer Fr Hesse stated that since the forms, Sacramental Rites (including the Liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church) have been pronounced to be eternally unalterable by former Popes - we are not permitted to alter them, for to do so we create a False reality that Christ will prohibit. (read Quo Primum by Pope St Pius V where he prohibits the future use of any Missal other than his own by the Roman Catholic Church) Fr Hesse told us that the new rites of Baptism, Confirmation, Mass (and possibly Holy Orders) were illegally, and unlawfully created during the era of Paul VI, which, since rendered invalid through a previous binding statement by a former Pope, are consequently prohibited by Church Law, Trent and Quo Primum. Subsequents attempts to ignore what has already been dogmatically stated, has (as Bl Anne Emmerich warned) has created a false, heretical "New Church" which can not be the Latin Rite Church since a former Pope commanded dogmatically in Christ's Name that any future change to any of the Sacraments including the Rite of Holy Mass was prohibited eternally.

www.youtube.com/watch
www.papalencyclicals.net/pius05/p5quopri.htm

Christ forewarned that a "false edifice" believed to be His Church will be constructed - with new Rites & Sacraments - He prophesied via uncanonised Stigmatic Visionary, Marie Julie Jahenny of France in 1902 that a "New Mass will be created by the enemies of His Church containing words "Odious to My ears."

www.communityofhopeinc.org/…/marie julie.html

Obviously, all this has happened, and it is what we are seeing everywhere. Those claiming to be Ministers of Christ are the invalidly ordained, heretic, evil souls leading us into perdition. I'd prefer the REAL, unchangeable TRUE Church everyone reading this - or you'll end up doing the Devil's bidding instead of Christ's."

"Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of the antichrist - the Church will be eclipsed." Our Lady of La Salette 1846. (Church accepted apparition)

sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/1846sallette.asp

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Vatican II & Novus Ordo Prefigured in the Old Testament
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mr. producer
Get ready folks, this creep is setting us up for the amazon synod. When all hell breaks loose, everything will be blamed on these rigid, American Catholics. A classic narcissistic technique.
advoluntas@aol.com
Our Lady of Akita predicted all this.
Pray the Rosary constantly.
St Michael the Archangel defend us in battle
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AND ALSO OUR LADY IN ANGUERA BRASIL.
STICK TO THE AUTHENTIC MAGISTERIUM
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HE ANOUNCED THREE YEARS AGO.
Gesù è con noi
Bergoglio is the one who has abandoned the Catholic faith.
Bergoglio had already betrayed the Catholic Church and God in Argentina.
Bergoglio is the schismatic who separates himself from Catholic doctrine and from the Holy Trinity. The schism consists in joining Bergoglio in his rebellion against God and not in separating ourselves from him, in order to remain faithful to Christ and faithful to …More
Bergoglio is the one who has abandoned the Catholic faith.
Bergoglio had already betrayed the Catholic Church and God in Argentina.

Bergoglio is the schismatic who separates himself from Catholic doctrine and from the Holy Trinity. The schism consists in joining Bergoglio in his rebellion against God and not in separating ourselves from him, in order to remain faithful to Christ and faithful to the Catholic Doctrine.
Gesù è con noi
The Message of Our lady of La Salette: "Several will abandon the faith, and a great number of priests and members of religious orders will break away from the true religion; among these people there will even be bishops".
adeste fideles
Gesù è con noi fights with the Sword of the Spirit .... ✍️
Ultraviolet
Francis is making it clear he will rather see the Church split (again) before he ever changes his stance. Understandable since his vision of the Church is a fragmented, "decentralized" structure. Such reforms would create weakness and inevitable new "schisms" as it has among the Lutherans. There would not be "a" Catholic Church, but many "catholic churches" with radically opposing ideologies. Sadly …More
Francis is making it clear he will rather see the Church split (again) before he ever changes his stance. Understandable since his vision of the Church is a fragmented, "decentralized" structure. Such reforms would create weakness and inevitable new "schisms" as it has among the Lutherans. There would not be "a" Catholic Church, but many "catholic churches" with radically opposing ideologies. Sadly, we are already at that point in practice, and our current Pope would see that formalized.
Ultraviolet
@Gesù è con noi The first step to de-legitimizing anyone is avoid using their proper title. I'm certain back in 1054 there were Eastern church leaders screaming "Bruno of Egisheim-Dagsburg is a schismatic in rebellion against God."
Church history, something worth learning regarding papacies past and present, recognizes that Pope today as Saint Leo IX.
The Eastern Orthodox still insist they are …More
@Gesù è con noi The first step to de-legitimizing anyone is avoid using their proper title. I'm certain back in 1054 there were Eastern church leaders screaming "Bruno of Egisheim-Dagsburg is a schismatic in rebellion against God."

Church history, something worth learning regarding papacies past and present, recognizes that Pope today as Saint Leo IX.

The Eastern Orthodox still insist they are the "true religion" and the "true Church" and our Roman one false.

Just in case you haven't noticed, the man's ecclesiastical title is no longer Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio but Pope Francis. You may not like what the current Pope does (I know I don't), but he is still Pope.

I suppose respecting the office of the Pope is overly "rigid" of me, but I am a traditionalist at heart. You're welcome to do as you please, of course.
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Arthur McGowan
I don't think he is pope. Even if I did, I still wouldn't call him "pope" because he would be such a bad one. We cannot afford to help tyrants, traitors, and usurpers by being obsequious Eddie Haskells.
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SAINT GALLEN MAFIA FORCED POPE BENEDICT RESIGNATION.
A FORCED RESIGNATION IS INVALID SO POPE BENEDICT IS STILL THE POPE.
raphaelheals
"Ideologies enter doctrine"......YES...modernist ideologies! All we hear is ideology and very little doctrine.
Ultraviolet
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Let us suppose you are correct. What happens when Benedict dies? Who, in your opinion, is Pope then? Or is there none?
Francis will still be the recognized Pope.
Even if, somehow, Francis expired tomorrow, the next (anti)Pope will be chosen by the supposedly invalid cardinals appointed by a supposedly invalid Francis.
But at some point Benedict XVI simply will not be here anymoreMore
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Let us suppose you are correct. What happens when Benedict dies? Who, in your opinion, is Pope then? Or is there none?

Francis will still be the recognized Pope.

Even if, somehow, Francis expired tomorrow, the next (anti)Pope will be chosen by the supposedly invalid cardinals appointed by a supposedly invalid Francis.

But at some point Benedict XVI simply will not be here anymore and the Church will be left with... who? Who is the valid Pope then? Or will the Church have no Pope at all?

Your position (shared by others here) is nothing less than perpetual sedevacantism kept at bay only by the failing health of a 92 year old man.

@Arthur McGowan
Eddie Haskell? :D "Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time, a long time." Kudos if you get the Star Wars reference. You probably saw Episode IV in the theater back around '77-'78, yes?

There's a difference between being obsequious and recognizing lawful (by Canon Law) authority. For what it's worth, I didn't like Obama, either. Spent eight very long years gritting my teeth through"Mistuh President's Hope 'n Change Minstrel Show". Didn't make him any less the President, though. Interestingly, there was a similar sort of denial based on his birth certificate.
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THATS IS A GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK BENEDICT WILL DIE AFTER BERGOGLIO DIES OR RESIGNS.
I TRUST OUR LADY AND IN ANGUERA BRASIL TOLD US THE POPE IS BENEDICT. ALSO IN GARABANDAL TOLD US THERE WERE THREE MORE POPES SO BENEDICT IS THE LAST ONE. SAINT BENEDICT NAMED ALL THE POPES FOR 900 YEARS THE LAST NUMBER IS BENEDICT XVI GLORY OF OLIVE, AFTER HIM WITH NO NUMBER PETRUS ROMANUS VERY CLEAR PIETRO PAROLIN …More
THATS IS A GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK BENEDICT WILL DIE AFTER BERGOGLIO DIES OR RESIGNS.
I TRUST OUR LADY AND IN ANGUERA BRASIL TOLD US THE POPE IS BENEDICT. ALSO IN GARABANDAL TOLD US THERE WERE THREE MORE POPES SO BENEDICT IS THE LAST ONE. SAINT BENEDICT NAMED ALL THE POPES FOR 900 YEARS THE LAST NUMBER IS BENEDICT XVI GLORY OF OLIVE, AFTER HIM WITH NO NUMBER PETRUS ROMANUS VERY CLEAR PIETRO PAROLIN BUT WITH NO NUMBER SO NO VALID POPE.
WE KNOW PIETRO PAROLIN CANNOT BE A POPE NAMED BY THE SODOMITES IT HAS TO BE NAMED BY THE WHOLY GHOST LIKE BENEDICT.
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SORRY I SAID SAINT BENEDICT I MEANT TO SAY SAINT MALACHY
Ultraviolet
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If Benedict XVI is still alive after Francis dies or resigns, the "invalid" cardinals Francis appointed, "invalidly" will choose the successor.
But sooner (sadly) rather than later, Benedict XVI will die. I suppose your claim is there are no more valid Popes after Benedict XVI.
But this causes a problem. The Church was established by Christ with a series of successors, starting …More
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If Benedict XVI is still alive after Francis dies or resigns, the "invalid" cardinals Francis appointed, "invalidly" will choose the successor.

But sooner (sadly) rather than later, Benedict XVI will die. I suppose your claim is there are no more valid Popes after Benedict XVI.

But this causes a problem. The Church was established by Christ with a series of successors, starting with Peter. A truly leaderless Church seems to contradict Christ's teachings that the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church.

From a theological perspective, it is easier to accept Francis as another "bad pope" (which is why I choose to recognize him as Pope) than a Church with "anti-popes" or (once Benedict passes on) no Pope at all.

Honestly, Francis is a new species of "bad pope" but there have been many, many bad popes before him. It is easier for me to accept God has allowed someone like Francis to be Pope (for reasons of His own) than for me to accept God would allow His church to remain leaderless from now on.
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FOR NOW LETS STICK TO POPE BENEDICT XVI OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IS ON CONTROL WE ARE AT HIS BOAT HE IS ASLEEP BUT HE WILL WAKE UP.
BERGOGLIO IS TRYING HARD TO DESTROY OUR CHURCH HE WILL NOT JESUS WILL DEFEND US.
BERGOGLIO CAN BE THE 38TH ANTIPOPE.
MAYBE WE ARE CLOSE TO THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST WE NEED TO STICK TO HIS BOAT NOT CHANGE TO BERGOGLIOS BOAT WE NEED TO STICK TO THE AUTHENTIC …More
FOR NOW LETS STICK TO POPE BENEDICT XVI OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IS ON CONTROL WE ARE AT HIS BOAT HE IS ASLEEP BUT HE WILL WAKE UP.
BERGOGLIO IS TRYING HARD TO DESTROY OUR CHURCH HE WILL NOT JESUS WILL DEFEND US.
BERGOGLIO CAN BE THE 38TH ANTIPOPE.
MAYBE WE ARE CLOSE TO THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST WE NEED TO STICK TO HIS BOAT NOT CHANGE TO BERGOGLIOS BOAT WE NEED TO STICK TO THE AUTHENTIC MAGISTERIUM.
BERGOGLIO HAS NAMED 53% OF CARDINALS MOSTLY SODOMITES AND THEY HAVE THE VOTE IF THEY ELECT PAROLIN OR ONE OF THEM ITBIS NOT GOING TO BE NAMED BY WHOLY GHOST.
LETS PRAY AND LET GOD SOLVE THIS PROBLEM
BERGOGLIO WON ON THE FIFTH ROUND WHICH CANNONICALLY IS INVALID. ANGELO SCOLA ACTIALLY WON FIRST BUT THEY INVENTED A FALSE BOTE AND INVALIDATED THAT ROUND.
CARDEAL DANNELS BEFORE DYING CONFESSED THEY FORCED BENEDICT TO RESIGN.
MAFIA OF SAINT GALLEN AND ALL ARROUND THEM WHERE EXCOMUNICATED AND STILL THEY VOTED INVALID VOTES. BERGOGLIO WAS EXCOMUNICATED AS BEING PART OF THE MAFIA.
BERGOGLIOS PHONE WAS RINGING ALL DAY AFTER THE RESIGNATION OF POPE BENEDICT. TO CONGRATULATE HIM BY THE MAFIA.
BENEDICT NEVER RESIGNED TO BE POPE CANNOT BE TWO POPES, HE STILL WEARS THE FISHERMENS RING AND DRESS AS POPE. HE IS POPE UNTIL HIS DEATH.
READ THE MESSAGES OF OUR MOTHER IN ANGUERA BRASIL.